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in the woodward piece. what do you make of him? >> a lot of great woodward stories, as many questions begged as there are answers like who recorded it, who thought it was in their interest to release the recording and what is mcfarland, a respected national security from republican administrations and a long-time fox analyst, what is her side of the story? if you listen to the audio, read the quotes, it doesn't sound like it's a total joke going on there. maybe there's confusion between roger and mcfarland but there are a lot of unanswered questions about it and has people looking at petraeus, as well as fox and asking about the various roles they had through the prism of this conversation. >> but at least according to these quotes there's nothing that the general said as he's quoted that is at all out of context with what he has always said publicly, he is not planning to have a political career right now. >> on that point it's consistent. some of the other things he said are racing some beltway eyebrows. >> and speaking of eyebrows, anna winter, one of the biggest contributors being mentio
that gets us at some distance down the road. can congress do beg or even medium things anymore, and is that a new trend or not? >> well, it's a culmination of a trend, obviously, that's been taking place for a generation. the answer seems to be no that given the current climate in washington, dwichb the idealogical complexion within both parties, there's really not the incentive for a grand bargain. in the absence of that, what you have is apparently deadline improvization to just get past this crisis, but do no more than get past the crisis. >> although people say they want this grand bargain, but you say what about we do this and this and this. maybe people want small. i want to talk about most people come out of this -- most people who are involved probably come out of this not looking that great. one person getting good press today at least is joe biden. what is the sort of biden role here? this is a guy who spept ayalon time in the senate. he is seen as now he is brokering it and is the dance partner mitch mcconnell wanted. what does that mean for biden as we move forward?
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